I have received confirmation on the Lovelock-giants!

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Lovelock skulls - or not?

Where are the skulls of the Lovelock giants?

The Humbolt Museum in Winnemucca has confirmed that they do have one of the Lovelock-skulls but is the skull of a ancient giant? If not; where are the giant skulls supposedly found in the Lovelock cave in Nevada? And where are the unusual looking ancient skulls found in the same area?

Barbara Powell of the Humboldt Museum writes to me in an email:
    - We do, in fact, have one of the Lovelock skulls. It was obtained years ago as part of a local collection.
    But at pictures on the internet, supposedly taken at the museum, we
can se four skulls on a shelf - not one!
The "Lovelock jaw" is not so big after all when you move the cast on top:
Not at all large
It used to be a video on Youtube from a tv-program on History Channel where David Hatcher Childress is having a look at the Lovelock cave and then the so-called Lovelock skulls in the museum. The video is now deleted but it showed the same four skulls that we usually see on pictures on the net. Childress is holding up one of them up and also compares the jaw to a cast of a normal jaw. He says that it is of a giant, but it was easy to see that both the skull and the jaw not at all were large! The skulls might have had some abnormal features but if anything they were smaller than normal human skulls!
Lovelock cave
The Lovelock cave where giant skeletons shall have been found has been excavated many times.     The cave is about 150 feet long and 35 feet wide and is important to archaelogists because the conditions of the cave have preserved both of organic and inorganic material.
    It was in 1911 that two miners, David Pugh and James Hart, shall have removed a layer of bat guano three to six feet deep from the cave to be used as fertilizer. The story is that they then discovered several red-haired mummies ranging from 6 and a half feet to 8 feet
Is any of these a Lovelock skull?
Lovelock skull and parts of skulls?
Lovelock mummy?
Supposedly a Lovelock skull.

Supposedly a Lovelock skull.

Supposedly a Lovelock skull.
tall. What they did with the assumingly well preserved bodies is not known.
Not skulls of giants
During archaeological excavations later on, from 1912 to 1969, mange artefacts and human remains were found and removed from the cave. It is natural to assume that the Lovelock skulls from tv-programs and internet pictures are from one of the earlier excavations but not from the two miners findings in the guano! Where those skulls are would be of great interesting to know!
    And as we can rean in a blog on the internet: The skulls in the
Humbolt Museum is no longer possible for public to view:

"Today I spoke with the curator of the Humboldt Museum in Winnemucca, Nevada. I've been trying to get permission to go shoot video of the Lovelock Cave "giant skulls" they have. She told me that last week the BLM officials came in and told her she couldn't show them to anyone anymore, and that they were filing paperwork to confiscate them and put them under Federal protection, since they were found on BLM land. I'm really upset by this. The coverup continues..."
Sevenbak
Much older
The skull at the Humboldt Museum and the skulls pictured as the Lovelock giants are as you understand most probably not skulls of giants but they are very interesting anyway because the way they look. And because they can be very old - might be much older than the mainstream
scientists are ready to accept! I will come back to this further down in the article.
Important site
The Lovelock Cave was previously known as Sunset Guano Cave, Horseshoe Cave, and Loud Site 18. It is one of the most important sites of the Great Basin region (from Reno to the west and Salt Lake City to the east) and was placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1984.
Map of Lovelock Cave and  Humboldt Sink.    In Wikipedia we can read that the large rock shelter is just north of Humboldt Sink in the Lake Lahontan region, next to the former lakebed of Lake Lahontan. It is said to have been formed by the lake's currents and wave action. Lake Lahontan was a large Pleistocene (a period of repeated glaciations from about 2,5 millions to 12,000 years ago), lake that covered much of western Nevada. Due to drier climate the water elevation dropped and much smaller lakes remain such as Humboldt Lake, Pyramid Lake, and Carson Lake. It is believed that people occupied Lovelock Cave for over 4,000 years.
Other giant skeletons
On the internet you can find several articles telling, from newspapers and other old media, that there has been other giant skeletons found in the area besides the those in the Lovelock cave. Here is one:

In February and June of 1931, large skeletons were found in the Humboldt lake bed near Lovelock, Nevada. The first of these two skeletons found
measured 8 1/2 feet tall and appeared to have been wrapped in a gum-covered fabric similiar to the Egyptian manner. The second skeleton was almost 10 feet long. (Review - Miner, June 19, 1931).
A 7 foot 7 inch skeleton was reported to have been found on the Friedman ranch, near Lovelock, Nevada, in 1939.(Review - Miner, Sept. 29, 1939).
http://www.stangrist.com/giants.htm
And here is another one:
Article 1904MAY BE RELATED TO CARDIFF GIANT
Bones of a Human Skeleton Eleven Feet High Are Dug Up in Nevada
WINNEMUCA, Nev., Jan 23. - Workmen engaged in digging gravel here today uncovered at a depth of about twelve feet a lot of bones, part of a skeleton of a gigantic human being.
Dr. Samuels examined them and pronounced them to be the bones of a man who must have been nealy eleven feet in height.
The metacarpal bones measure four and a half inches in length and are large in proportion. A part of the ulna was found and in its complete form would have been between seventeen and eighteen inches in length.
The remainder of the skeleton is being searched for.

And here is another one, about 450 miles to the southeast, near Las Vegas:
Find Old Home of Giants Who Once Ruled in America
Excavators in Long Lost City in Nevada Find Skeletons Seven Feet Tall
(By the International News Service)
St. Thomas, Nev., March 6. - Pueblo Grande, Nevada, long lost city, believed to have been the seat of a primitive people of giant stature who ruled western America centuries ago, was being gradually restored today by excavators working under M. R. Harrington, director of the Museum of the American Indian. Exploration has been going on for months, but only recently, according to Harrington, has been uncovered almost incontrovertible evidence that the once lost city will prove to be the largest prehistoric ruin of the western hemisphere.
Big, sturdy, round adobe buildings, some containing 20 rooms, with hard glazed floors, have been excavated. Under the circular court yards are the graves of a vanished race, with the skeletons found to average over seven feet in height. A woman wrapped in a feather blanket was found in one circular burial place, with a set of new-born twins buried with her. Harrington has found beautiful shell jewelry, artistically cut beads and decorated pottery of fanciful designs, in addition to quantities of crude hunting implements and other primitive tools. Some sets of perfectly -formed dice, some with the corners rounded, were discovered in clay urns. The area embraced by Pueblo Grande is eight miles wide and extends intermittently, with 150 outcroppings, for 35 miles down the Muddy and Virgin River Valleys.

From Youngstown Vindicator, March 6, 1925, pg 32.
Mark Raymond Harrington (1882 – 1971) was a well known archaeologist, with a bachelor of science degree and a master of arts in anthropology. He was the curator of archaeology at the Southwest Museum 1928-1964 and discoverer of ancient Pueblo structures near Overton in Nevada. Large parts of The "Lost City" ended up being lost forever beneath the waters of Lake Mead after the Hoover Dam was completed.
I have been i contact with the Lost City museum concerning the article but they have not heard about this..
And here is another one from about 200 miles (320 km) to the east of the Lovelock cave:

Giant Human Legbone and Kneecap in Solid Rock
At times, the discoveries made revealed "mysteries upon mysteries." In July, 1877, four prospectors were looking for gold and silver outcroppings in a desolate, hilly area near the head of Spring Valley, not far from Eureka, Nevada.
Scanning the rocks, one of the men spotted something peculiar projecting from a high ledge. Climbing up to get a better look, the prospector was surprised to find a human legbone and knee cap sticking out of solid rock. He called to his companions, and together they dislodged the oddity with picks. Realizing they had a most unusual find, the men brought it into Eureka, where it was placed on display.
The stone in which the bones were embedded was a hard, dark red quartzite, and the bones themselves were almost black with carbonization - indicative of great age. When the surrounding stone was carefully chipped away, the specimen was found to be composed of a leg bone broken off four inches above the knee, the knee cap and joint, the lower leg bones, and the complete bones of the foot.
Several medical doctors examined the remains, and were convinced that anatomically they had indeed once belonged to a human being, and a very modern-looking one. But an intriguing aspect of the bones was their size: from knee to heel they measured 39 inches. Their owner in life had thus stood over 12 feet tall.
Compounding the mystery further was the fact that the rock in which the bones were found was dated geologically to he era of the dinosaurs, the Jurassic - over 185 million years old. The local papers ran several stories on the marvelous find, and two museums sent investigators to see if any more of the skeleton could be located.
Unfortunately, nothing else but the leg and foot existed in the rock.
http://www.s8int.com/giants2.html

So far it has been impossible to get any of these findings confirmed.
Giant handprint in the cave
The fingerprint.The latest development when it comes to the Lovelock cave is that what looks like a gigantic hand-print resently has been found on the wall in the cave! Images taken by the well-known Bigfoot investigators MK Davis and Don Monroe shows what supposedly is a handprint of a human that would have been more that 5 meters (18 feet) tall! They say that there are dermal ridges burned into the sot/fat mix that are the basis of the print, and the impression of the fingers is typical for somebody trying to push or lift something heavy!
Strange skulls
Some of the pictures seemingly depicting a skull (or four) found in the Lovelock cave might not be that of a giant but they are interesting looking. The skulls have a flat and receding forehead with a brow ridge above the eyes.
Lovelock Sink skull    Well, in 1967 a skull of an ancient man was found in a salt-flat 3 miles (5 km) southwest of the Lovelock cave. It had a strong bow ridge and a receding forehead.
    It also had a stong nuchal crest: A raised bony ridge on the back of the skull (not so easy to see on the picture). Plus an Occipital bun, a prominent bulge at the back of the skull.
    The skull was properly examines by Erik K Reid at the University of Utah, and he concluded that the scull was not necessary of great antiquity. No C14-dating was done, but he believed the skull to be simular to other skulls found in the area that has been dated to 4900 BC. Like the skull that in was dug out in the Ophir mine in Virginia City sometimes before 1876, at a depth of about three hundred feet below the surface. The Ophir skull also had a occipital bun.
Spirit Cave mummy
Skull and reconstruction o Spirit Cave Man.The skull of the Spirit Cave mummy skull is not so strange looking, that is; if it had been found in Norway or Japan!
    About half an hour drive from the Lovelock Cave is the Spirit Cave; first excavated in 1940. Remains of two people was found wrapped in tule (a kind of sedge) mats, and the head and shoulder of the one buried a bit deeper than the other had been partly mummified. Sixty-seven artefacts, included advanced basketry, were recovered from the cave, and the Nevada State Museum estimated them to be between 1,500 and 2,000 years old.     
     In 1994 some of the artefacts were re-examined using mass spectrometry. The results showed that the Spirit Cave man had lived over 9,400 years ago - older than any previously known North American mummy. What more; further study has shown that the skull of the mummy has Caucasoid characteristics. Yes, the skull shape is most similar to Europeans from Norway or the ancient Ainu people of Japan! And it was said to have red hair.
    In 1997, a Paiute-Shoshone Tribe made a Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA) claim of cultural affiliation with the artifacts, so further studies like DNA testing has not been done, but the BLM (Bureau of Land Management) has later said there is no cultural, biological or physical evidence to show Spirit Cave Man was an ancestor of the Paiute tribe so there is still hope!
Wizard's beach skull.Wizard's Beach Man
Not far away from the Lovelock Cave and the Spirit Cave is Pyramid Lake. In 1978 a draught had lowered the level of the lake and an ancient skeleton was found. The so called Wizard's Beach man turned up to be of about the same date as the Spirit Cave man; it is dated to be 9.200 years old. It is said that further studies has been unable to "establish a definitve affliliaton of the remains" but what is supposed to be a picture of the skull shows many of the same characteristics as the Ophir skull, the pictured Loveslock skulls and partly also the Spirit man skull.
Oldest petroglyphs
PetroglyphsThe Pyramid Lake is also interesting because of the oldest known petroglyphs in North America. Next to the lake is what is called "Winnemucca Lake", a dry lake bed that once was a part of Pyramid Lake. It is here you find the petroglyphs; carvings in stone dated to be between 14,800 and 10,500 years old. Several boulders are carved: From straight lines and swirls to more complex petroglyphs that resemble trees and flowers - and there is also a kind of diamond pattern on one rock. The meaning of the carvings and how the petroglyphs were created is not known.
Stone Mother
Stone Mother at Pyramid lake .There is an old Paiute Indian legend from this area telling about a woman who, thousands of years ago, wanted to meet the father of all indians; who was living on a mountain. She went searching for him and you should be able to se her footprints on the shore of Mono Lake. At Yerington a giant tried to eat her, but she was able to kill the giant and escape. She finally found the Great Father, and they got married. They had two sons and several daughters but the oldest son always fought with the other children. The Great Father grew tired of all the fighting decided to separate them. He sent his oldest son and a girl to the west; they became the Pit River Tribe. He sent his younger son with a girl to the east; they became the Bannock Tribe. The other children remained at home and became the Paiute Tribe. After shunning his children the Great Father was so distraught that he went to his home in the sky. After some time the brothers returned home and began fighting. When the mother saw her sons fighting it broke her heart. She climbed to the top of a hill and started to cry. She cried so hard that her tears formed a lake; Pyramid Lake. The mother stayed on the hill crying for so long that she turned into stone and you can see the Stone Mother sitting on the east shore of Pyramid Lake with her basket by her side.
    Yes, Pyramid Lake has a pyramid, a small islet formed like a pyramid. It is said to be natural and not man made but resent discoveries of megalithic stones under what was believed to be natural hills could make an investigation worth while!
Sarah WinnemuccaSarah Winnemucca
Sometimes legends and facts can go hand in hand, and the red hair of the Spirit Cave man and Lovelock-giants is also to be found in legends of the Pauite Indans.
    A "Paiute-princess", Sarah Winnemucca, published her book: "Life Among the Paiutes: Their Wrongs and Claims" in 1983. In "the first known autobiography written by a Native American woman" she is writing: "My people say that the tribe we exterminated had reddish hair. I have some of their hair, which has been handed down from father to son. I have a dress which has been in our family a great many years, trimmed with the reddish hair."
    In her book she is also writing that her grandfather was chief of the Paiute nation,
and when they were camped near Humboldt Lake with a small portion of his tribe, they saw a party of white settlers coming eastward from California. When the grandfather was told that they had hair on their faces and were white he had jumped up, clasped his hands together and cried aloud: "My white brothers…my long-looked for white brothers have come at last!"
    Sarah Winnemucca is said to have been a full-blooded Indian but the title of her book and also her features hint that her somewhat distant relatives indeed might have had brothers looking very different to the Paiute!
    According to the legends of the Pauite Indians there was a red-haired tribe of cannibals that harassed them with war but according to Sarah Winnemucca their own tribes one day had have enough and banded together. They battled them successfully and drove the last Si-Te Cah, the "tule eaters", to the Lovelock cave. The Pauite filled the cave entrance with bush and set it ablaze. The Si-Te Cah that tried to get out was shot with arrows and the
Lovelcok cave

remaining in the cave suffocated and died.
The cave is real
Well, we know that the Lovelock cave is real. Arrow points and a primitive sling are among the many artifacts found in the cave, together with duck decoys made of tule (dated to be about 2000 years old).
    Just below the cave an extremely large pestle made of pink rhyolite was found. It weighs 12.5 kg (27 lbs.) and is 66 cm long. It would be as good as impossible for a normal sized person to use this pestle - just take a look at the picture!
    Several sandals made of tule fiber were found in the cave, and one reported at over 15 inches (38 cm) in length. That would be a shoe size of 22 in modern times but how could you find a shoe of that size today? The common size for a person 6 feet tall (180 cm) is size 10-11!
    We know that there have been found human remains in the cave but if any of them were after the red haired tule-eaters of gigantic size is so far an unanswered question!
Neanderthal
Homo Sapiens and Neanderthal skulls.Receding forehead. Strong bow ridge. Occipital bun. Protruding jaw The ancient skulls said to be of the Lovelock giants have those features. So do the Lovelock salt flat skull, the Ophir skull and the Wizard's Beach Man skull; features that usually are found in Neanderthal skulls. But the scientists are telling us that no Neanderthal fossil have been found in North America. The Neanderthals, Homo Neanderthalensis, is believed to have lived between 350,000 and 24,500 years ago, throughout Europe and the Middle East.
The time of migration by human species to North America usually set to be about 14.000 years ago by home sapiens but date this disputed. It may have been earlier but I feel that no mainstream scientist will accept that a Neanderthal should have found the way across the Atlantic Ocean.
Resent DNA-studies studies have found that the Neanderthals had a gene for fair skin - and red hair.
Denisova
Early human migration began when the pre-modern Homo erectus first migrated out of Africa over the Levantine corridor and Horn of Africa to Eurasia about 1.8 million years ago. The expansion of H. erectus out of Africa was followed by that of H. antecessor into Europe around 800,000 years ago, followed by H. heidelbergensis around 600,000 years ago, who was the likely ancestor of both Modern Humans and Neanderthals.[1] The ancestors of the human species H. sapiens evolved into Modern Humans (i.e. our current day subspecies H. sapiens sapiens) around 200,000 years ago, in Africa.

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