skulls - or not?
are the skulls of the Lovelock giants?
Humbolt Museum in Winnemucca has confirmed that they do
have one of the Lovelock-skulls but is the skull of a ancient
giant? If not; where are the giant skulls supposedly found
in the Lovelock cave
in Nevada? And where
are the unusual looking ancient skulls found in the same
Powell of the Humboldt Museum writes to me in an email:
- We do, in fact, have one of the
Lovelock skulls. It was obtained years ago as part of a local
But at pictures on the internet, supposedly
taken at the museum, we can
se four skulls on a shelf - not one!
at all large
jaw" is not so big after all when you move the
cast on top:
It used to be a video on Youtube from a tv-program on History
Channel where David Hatcher Childress is having a look at
the Lovelock cave and then the so-called Lovelock skulls in
the museum. The video is now deleted but it showed the same
four skulls that we usually see on pictures on the net. Childress
is holding up one of them up and also compares the jaw to
a cast of a normal jaw. He says that it is of a giant, but
it was easy to see that both the skull and the jaw not at
all were large! The skulls might have had some abnormal features
but if anything they were smaller than normal human skulls!
The Lovelock cave where giant skeletons shall have been found
has been excavated many times. The
cave is about 150 feet long and 35 feet wide and is important
to archaelogists because the conditions of the cave have preserved
both of organic and inorganic material.
It was in 1911 that two miners, David
Pugh and James Hart, shall have removed a layer of bat guano
three to six feet deep from the cave to be used as fertilizer.
The story is that they then discovered several red-haired
mummies ranging from 6 and a half feet to 8 feet
What they did with the assumingly well preserved bodies is
skulls of giants
During archaeological excavations later on,
from 1912 to 1969, mange artefacts and human remains were
found and removed from the cave. It is natural to assume that
the Lovelock skulls from tv-programs and internet pictures
are from one of the earlier excavations but not from the two
miners findings in the guano! Where those skulls are would
be of great interesting to know!
And as we can rean in a blog on the
internet: The skulls in the Humbolt
no longer possible for public to view:
I spoke with the curator of the Humboldt Museum in Winnemucca,
Nevada. I've been trying to get permission to go shoot
video of the Lovelock Cave "giant skulls"
they have. She told me that last week the BLM officials
came in and told her she couldn't show them to anyone
anymore, and that they were filing paperwork to confiscate
them and put them under Federal protection, since they
were found on BLM land. I'm
really upset by this. The coverup continues..."
The skull at the Humboldt Museum and the skulls pictured as
the Lovelock giants are as you understand most probably not
skulls of giants but they are very interesting anyway because
the way they look. And because they can be very old - might
be much older than the mainstream scientists
are ready to accept! I will come back to this further down
in the article.
Lovelock Cave was previously known as Sunset
Horseshoe Cave, and Loud Site 18. It is one of the most important
sites of the Great Basin region (from Reno to the west and
Salt Lake City to the east) and was placed on the National
Register of Historic Places in 1984.
we can read that the large rock shelter is just north of Humboldt
Sink in the Lake Lahontan region, next to the former lakebed
of Lake Lahontan. It is said to have been formed by the lake's
currents and wave action. Lake Lahontan was a large Pleistocene
(a period of repeated glaciations from about 2,5 millions
to 12,000 years ago), lake that covered much of western Nevada.
Due to drier climate the water elevation dropped and much
smaller lakes remain such as Humboldt Lake, Pyramid Lake,
and Carson Lake. It is believed that people occupied Lovelock
Cave for over 4,000 years.
Other giant skeletons
On the internet you can find several articles telling, from
newspapers and other old media, that there has been other
giant skeletons found in the area besides the those in the
Lovelock cave. Here is one:
here is another one:
February and June of 1931, large skeletons were found
in the Humboldt lake bed near Lovelock, Nevada. The
first of these two skeletons found
measured 8 1/2 feet tall and appeared to have been wrapped
in a gum-covered fabric similiar to the Egyptian manner.
The second skeleton was almost 10 feet long. (Review
- Miner, June 19, 1931).
A 7 foot 7 inch skeleton was reported to have been found
on the Friedman ranch, near Lovelock, Nevada, in 1939.(Review
- Miner, Sept. 29, 1939).
here is another one, about 450 miles to the southeast, near
BE RELATED TO CARDIFF GIANT
of a Human Skeleton Eleven Feet High Are Dug Up in Nevada
WINNEMUCA, Nev., Jan 23. - Workmen engaged in digging
gravel here today uncovered at a depth of about twelve
feet a lot of bones, part of a skeleton of a gigantic
Dr. Samuels examined them and pronounced them to be
the bones of a man who must have been nealy eleven feet
The metacarpal bones measure four and a half inches
in length and are large in proportion. A part of the
ulna was found and in its complete form would have been
between seventeen and eighteen inches in length.
The remainder of the skeleton is being searched for.
here is another one from about 200 miles (320 km) to the east
of the Lovelock cave:
Old Home of Giants Who Once Ruled in America
Excavators in Long Lost City in Nevada Find Skeletons
Seven Feet Tall
(By the International News Service)
St. Thomas, Nev., March 6. - Pueblo Grande, Nevada,
long lost city, believed to have been the seat of a
primitive people of giant stature who ruled western
America centuries ago, was being gradually restored
today by excavators working under M. R. Harrington,
director of the Museum of the American Indian. Exploration
has been going on for months, but only recently, according
to Harrington, has been uncovered almost incontrovertible
evidence that the once lost city will prove to be the
largest prehistoric ruin of the western hemisphere.
Big, sturdy, round adobe buildings, some containing
20 rooms, with hard glazed floors, have been excavated.
Under the circular court yards are the graves of a vanished
race, with the skeletons found to average over seven
feet in height. A woman wrapped in a feather blanket
was found in one circular burial place, with a set of
new-born twins buried with her. Harrington has found
beautiful shell jewelry, artistically cut beads and
decorated pottery of fanciful designs, in addition to
quantities of crude hunting implements and other primitive
tools. Some sets of perfectly -formed dice, some with
the corners rounded, were discovered in clay urns. The
area embraced by Pueblo Grande is eight miles wide and
extends intermittently, with 150 outcroppings, for 35
miles down the Muddy and Virgin River Valleys.
Youngstown Vindicator, March 6, 1925, pg 32.
Raymond Harrington (1882 1971) was a well known
archaeologist, with a bachelor of science degree and
a master of arts in anthropology. He was the curator
of archaeology at the Southwest Museum 1928-1964 and
discoverer of ancient Pueblo structures near Overton
in Nevada. Large parts of The "Lost City"
ended up being lost forever beneath the waters of Lake
Mead after the Hoover Dam was completed.
I have been i contact with the
Lost City museum concerning the article but
they have not heard about this..
far it has been impossible to get any of these findings confirmed.
Human Legbone and Kneecap in Solid Rock
times, the discoveries made revealed "mysteries
upon mysteries." In July, 1877, four prospectors
were looking for gold and silver outcroppings in a
desolate, hilly area near the head of Spring Valley,
not far from Eureka, Nevada.
the rocks, one of the men spotted something peculiar
projecting from a high ledge. Climbing up to get a
better look, the prospector was surprised to find
a human legbone and knee cap sticking out of solid
rock. He called to his companions, and together they
dislodged the oddity with picks. Realizing they had
a most unusual find, the men brought it into Eureka,
where it was placed on display.
stone in which the bones were embedded was a hard,
dark red quartzite, and the bones themselves were
almost black with carbonization - indicative of great
age. When the surrounding stone was carefully chipped
away, the specimen was found to be composed of a leg
bone broken off four inches above the knee, the knee
cap and joint, the lower leg bones, and the complete
bones of the foot.
medical doctors examined the remains, and were convinced
that anatomically they had indeed once belonged to
a human being, and a very modern-looking one. But
an intriguing aspect of the bones was their size:
from knee to heel they measured 39 inches. Their owner
in life had thus stood over 12 feet tall.
the mystery further was the fact that the rock in
which the bones were found was dated geologically
to he era of the dinosaurs, the Jurassic - over 185
million years old. The local papers ran several stories
on the marvelous find, and two museums sent investigators
to see if any more of the skeleton could be located.
nothing else but the leg and foot existed in the rock.
handprint in the cave
latest development when it comes to the Lovelock cave is that
what looks like a gigantic hand-print resently has been found
on the wall in the cave! Images taken by the well-known Bigfoot
investigators MK Davis and Don Monroe shows what supposedly
is a handprint of a human that would have been more that 5
meters (18 feet) tall! They say that there are dermal ridges
burned into the sot/fat mix that are the basis of the print,
and the impression of the fingers is typical for somebody
trying to push or lift something heavy!
Some of the pictures seemingly depicting a
skull (or four) found in the Lovelock cave might not be that
of a giant but they are interesting looking. The skulls have
a flat and receding forehead with a brow ridge above the eyes.
in 1967 a skull of an ancient man was found in a salt-flat
3 miles (5 km) southwest of the Lovelock cave. It had a strong
bow ridge and a receding forehead.
It also had a stong nuchal crest:
A raised bony ridge on the back of the skull (not so easy
to see on the picture). Plus an Occipital bun, a prominent
bulge at the back of the skull.
The skull was properly examines by
Erik K Reid at the University of Utah, and he concluded that
the scull was not necessary of great antiquity. No C14-dating
was done, but he believed the skull to be simular to other
skulls found in the area that has been dated to 4900 BC. Like
the skull that in was dug out in the Ophir mine in Virginia
City sometimes before 1876, at a depth of about three hundred
feet below the surface. The Ophir
skull also had a occipital bun.
skull of the Spirit Cave mummy skull is not so strange looking,
that is; if it had been found in Norway or Japan!
About half an hour drive from the
Lovelock Cave is the Spirit Cave; first excavated in 1940.
Remains of two people was found wrapped in tule (a kind of
sedge) mats, and the head and shoulder of the one buried a
bit deeper than the other had been partly mummified. Sixty-seven
artefacts, included advanced basketry, were recovered from
the cave, and the Nevada State Museum estimated them to be
between 1,500 and 2,000 years old.
In 1994 some of the artefacts were
re-examined using mass spectrometry. The results showed that
the Spirit Cave man had lived over 9,400 years ago - older
than any previously known North American mummy. What more;
further study has shown that the skull of the mummy has Caucasoid
characteristics. Yes, the skull shape is most similar to Europeans
from Norway or the ancient Ainu people of Japan! And it was
said to have red hair.
In 1997, a Paiute-Shoshone Tribe made
a Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA)
claim of cultural affiliation with the artifacts, so further
studies like DNA testing has not been done, but the BLM (Bureau
of Land Management) has later said there is no cultural, biological
or physical evidence to show Spirit Cave Man was an ancestor
of the Paiute tribe so there is still hope!
Not far away from the Lovelock Cave and the Spirit Cave is
Pyramid Lake. In 1978 a draught had lowered the level of the
lake and an ancient skeleton was found. The so called Wizard's
Beach man turned up to be of about the same date as the Spirit
Cave man; it is dated to be 9.200 years old. It is said that
further studies has been unable to "establish a definitve
affliliaton of the remains" but what is supposed to be
a picture of the skull shows many of the same characteristics
as the Ophir skull, the pictured Loveslock skulls and partly
also the Spirit man skull.
Pyramid Lake is also interesting because of the oldest known
petroglyphs in North America. Next to the lake is what is
called "Winnemucca Lake", a dry lake bed that once
was a part of Pyramid Lake. It is here you find the petroglyphs;
carvings in stone dated to be between 14,800 and 10,500 years
old. Several boulders are carved: From straight lines and
swirls to more complex petroglyphs that resemble trees and
flowers - and there is also a kind of diamond pattern on one
rock. The meaning of the carvings and how the petroglyphs
were created is not known.
is an old Paiute Indian legend from this area telling about
a woman who, thousands of years ago, wanted to meet the father
of all indians; who was living on a mountain. She went searching
for him and you should be able to se her footprints on the
shore of Mono Lake. At Yerington a giant tried to eat her,
but she was able to kill the giant and escape. She finally
found the Great Father, and they got married. They had two
sons and several daughters but the oldest son always fought
with the other children. The Great Father grew tired of all
the fighting decided to separate them. He sent his oldest
son and a girl to the west; they became the Pit River Tribe.
He sent his younger son with a girl to the east; they became
the Bannock Tribe. The other children remained at home and
became the Paiute Tribe. After shunning his children the Great
Father was so distraught that he went to his home in the sky.
After some time the brothers returned home and began fighting.
When the mother saw her sons fighting it broke her heart.
She climbed to the top of a hill and started to cry. She cried
so hard that her tears formed a lake; Pyramid Lake. The mother
stayed on the hill crying for so long that she turned into
stone and you can see the Stone Mother sitting on the east
shore of Pyramid Lake with her basket by her side.
Pyramid Lake has a pyramid, a small islet formed like a pyramid.
It is said to be natural and not man made but resent discoveries
of megalithic stones under what was believed to be natural
hills could make an investigation worth while!
Sometimes legends and facts can go hand in hand, and the red
hair of the Spirit Cave man and Lovelock-giants is also to
be found in legends of the Pauite Indans.
A "Paiute-princess", Sarah
Winnemucca, published her book: "Life Among the Paiutes:
Their Wrongs and Claims" in 1983. In "the first
known autobiography written by a Native American woman"
she is writing: "My people say that the tribe we exterminated
had reddish hair. I have some of their hair, which has been
handed down from father to son. I have a dress which has been
in our family a great many years, trimmed with the reddish
In her book she is also writing that
her grandfather was chief of the Paiute nation,
and when they were camped near Humboldt Lake with a small
portion of his tribe, they saw a party of white settlers coming
eastward from California. When the grandfather was told that
they had hair on their faces and were white he had jumped
up, clasped his hands together and cried aloud: "My white
my long-looked for white brothers have come
Sarah Winnemucca is said to have been
a full-blooded Indian but the title of her book and also her
features hint that her somewhat distant relatives indeed might
have had brothers looking very different to the Paiute!
According to the legends of the Pauite
Indians there was a red-haired tribe of cannibals that harassed
them with war but according to Sarah Winnemucca their own
tribes one day had have enough and banded together. They battled
them successfully and drove the last Si-Te Cah, the "tule
eaters", to the Lovelock cave. The Pauite filled the
cave entrance with bush and set it ablaze. The Si-Te Cah that
tried to get out was shot with arrows and the
in the cave suffocated and died.
The cave is real
Well, we know that the Lovelock cave is real. Arrow
points and a primitive sling are among the many artifacts
found in the cave, together with duck decoys made of tule
(dated to be about 2000 years old).
Just below the cave an extremely
large pestle made of pink rhyolite was found. It weighs
12.5 kg (27 lbs.) and is 66 cm long. It would be as good
as impossible for a normal sized person to use this pestle
- just take a look at the picture!
of tule fiber were
found in the cave, and one reported at over 15 inches (38
cm) in length.
That would be a shoe size of 22 in modern times but how
could you find a shoe of that size today? The common size
for a person 6 feet tall (180 cm) is size 10-11!
We know that there have been found
human remains in the cave but if any of them were after
the red haired tule-eaters of gigantic size is so far an
forehead. Strong bow ridge. Occipital bun. Protruding jaw
The ancient skulls said to be of the Lovelock giants have
those features. So do the Lovelock salt flat skull, the
Ophir skull and the Wizard's Beach Man skull; features that
usually are found in Neanderthal skulls. But the scientists
are telling us that no Neanderthal fossil have been found
in North America. The Neanderthals, Homo Neanderthalensis,
is believed to have lived between 350,000 and 24,500 years
ago, throughout Europe and the Middle East.
The time of migration by human species to North America
usually set to be about 14.000 years ago by home sapiens
but date this disputed. It may have been earlier but I feel
that no mainstream scientist will accept that a Neanderthal
should have found the way across the Atlantic Ocean.
Resent DNA-studies studies have found that the Neanderthals
had a gene for fair skin - and red hair.
Early human migration began when the pre-modern Homo erectus
first migrated out of Africa over the Levantine corridor
and Horn of Africa to Eurasia about 1.8 million years ago.
The expansion of H. erectus out of Africa was followed by
that of H. antecessor into Europe around 800,000 years ago,
followed by H. heidelbergensis around 600,000 years ago,
who was the likely ancestor of both Modern Humans and Neanderthals.
The ancestors of the human species H. sapiens evolved into
Modern Humans (i.e. our current day subspecies H. sapiens
sapiens) around 200,000 years ago, in Africa.
Incompleded!! More to follow